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Pressured by church to sign a petition…

In Uncategorized on February 25, 2012 at 07:58

My former Orthodox church suggested to me to join a petition against gay marriage… That’s what I replied (for the record).

Could you please remove me and my children from all mailing and parish lists as we are not interested in religion any more?

Because of this I am also not interested in formalising personal relationships but as a person who has been married I feel it would be utterly unkind for me to deny this opportunity for any other grown up people, whatever they sex or number would be. I feel the things which really matter in any relationship are freedom, love and happiness, not labels, certificates or an opinion of absolute strangers. I am so happy I can now say freely what I have been suppressing inside for years.

I hope you will understand

These is a gross mistake in the text of their petition: “Throughout history and in virtually all human societies marriage has always been the union of a man and a woman. Marriage reflects the complementary natures of men and women…” “If marriage is redefined once, what is to stop it being redefined to allow polygamy?” As far as I know, polygamy was quite common in many societies. Plus very early marriages forbidden now. Traditions can’t help their case. Also funny that their petition is not on official government site. Probably wouldn’t pass the standard.

The message has been forwarded from the main priest at official church mail address so the pressure on parish members to join the petition is obvious.

Anyway here is the link to an opposite petition if anybody is interested. No pressure whatsoever 🙂

Priests brawl in Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity

In Uncategorized on December 29, 2011 at 09:20

At one of oldest churches in the world, built over the cave that tradition marks as the place Jesus was born, Franciscan, Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests have brawled annually around Christmas Day for more than a century.

This year was no different.

Scuffles between the rival groups of priests broke out during a cleaning of the church in preparation for Orthodox Christmas on Jan. 7. The BBC reports that about 100 priests fought with brooms as tourists looked on, until Palestinian police broke up the clashes. No one was seriously injured, and there were no arrests.

“No one was arrested because all those involved were men of God,” Bethlehem police Lt. Col. Khaled al-Tamimi told Reuters. Tamimi called the incident “a trivial problem that . . . occurs every year.”

In past years, the priests have brawled over who owns which altars, passageways and chandeliers, and how to do repairs, according to news accounts. In 2010, the fight broke out while priests were trying to repair the church’s rotting, collapsing roof.

In 2008, the fight took place next to the purported site of Jesus’s tomb and landed two clergymen in jail.

Watch the video of this year’s melee here.

Criminalising Singing in Israel…

In Uncategorized on November 15, 2011 at 08:26

…The whole subject of women’s singing was the last straw. I took singing and was in choirs most of my life. When someone says: ‘Shut up. You can’t sing, because you are a woman’ — that hits me on such a basic level, I had to do something about it.

Triggering her outrage in particular was the response of Israel’s chief rabbi to the controversy regarding women’s singing in IDF ceremonies, in which he recommended female singing be avoided to protect religious male sensibilities, citing the law which compares a women’s voice to “nakedness” or, as she points out — is more literally translated as sound that is “pubic.”

Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/sisterhood-blog/145007/#ixzz1dlCwuQgz

Православная инквизиция

In Uncategorized on August 21, 2011 at 08:35

Патрик Лисицын пишет

Когда речь заходит об инквизиции, то все сразу вспоминают римскую
католическую церковь. А если вы спросите у простого русского
православного гражданина о том, было ли нечто подобное в России, то
увидите большие удивлённые глаза:

– ” Да вы что, наша церковь, самая добрая церковь на свете, не то что эти еретики-католики !”

Так ли всё на самом деле? Была ли на Руси “Православная инквизиция” ?

Этому посвящено целое исследование и подкреплено историческими документами в книге ” Святая инквизиция» в России до 1917 года

Вот какие факты в частности в ней приводятся:

“Одним из феноменов российской
ментальности является ксенофобия. Раньше было принято считать, что корни
этого общественно–психологического фактора уходят в необразованность и
темноту народных масс. Но век двадцатый, век массовой образованности и
просвещения, дает по–прежнему примеры подобной патологии — будь то в
коммунистический период или в постсоветский. Менялись только ярлыки:
штундист, космополит, баптист, враг народа.

Уже упоминалось о созыве в 1891 г. в Москве Совещания православных иерархов. Так вот, Резолюция гласила:
«Быстрый рост сектантства является
серьезной опасностью для государства. Всем сектантам должно быть
воспрещено покидать место жительства. Все преступления против
православной церкви должны разбираться не в светских, а в духовных судах
(инквизиция!). Паспорта сектантов должны быть помечены особым образом,
чтобы их нигде не принимали на работу, ни на жительство, пока жизнь в России не станет для них невыносимой . Дети их должны силой отбираться и воспитываться в православной вере».
Вам ничего это не напоминает? А мне вот видится, что современная
Православная церковь спит и видит, что бы вернуть все эти порядки в нашу
жизнь.  И мы видим собственными глазами, как средневековое мракобесие
возвращается в нашу российскую действительность!
Ещё одна выдержка:
“В 1897 г. третий Съезд миссионеров
вынес решение, по которому вышедших из православия можно было ссылать в
Сибирь уже не через суд, а в соответствии с приговорами местных сходов.
Иначе говоря, самосуд объявлялся законной нормой. Позже достаточно будет
приговоров «троек».
«Эти злодеяния власти называли
«стерилизацией» (?! — А.Б.), а попечение над ней было доверено
православному духовенству, которое обвиняемых направляло в суд,
представляя чаще всего фальшивых свидетелей, и подсудимых суд наказывал
ссылкой на дальний Кавказ или Сибирь. Выход из православной церкви
считался актом беззакония, и поэтому еретики (? — А.Б. ) были лишены
всех прав. Их браки считались бесправными и нелегальными; их дети тоже
были нелегальными, не регистрированными и не получали метрических
документов».”
Знать свою историю – значит понимать настоящее.
Источник.

In Uncategorized on July 7, 2011 at 15:24

A Chapel in Valaam Monastery

Unfairness

In Uncategorized on June 19, 2009 at 09:02

I’ve decided to try to duplicate the posts from my other blogs here and to see what happens. Russian posts will have russian tags and vice versa.

It often happens to me that if I have a burning question the answer comes from outside world. Few days ago I’ve got involved in an unpleasant discussion on the net. There was a place where people were answering a simple question "Do you belong to the Orthodox Church?" Then out of the blue three persons appeared saying again and again that all Orthodox Christians are layers, pretenders (unlike me clever agnostic), infantiles, never have any religious experience (unlike me clever Buddhist), dream about world domination and generally some sad and ugly creature, not proper human being (unlike me rude student). When I told them that you can’t say this kind of things about a very large amount of people (simply because it’s impossible to prove) they accused me of enforcing Western political correctness. Me and the other people tried to reason but we were overpowered by these people who seemingly had nothing else to do rather that denying millions of people their beliefs. So I was wondering: If something like this happens in future should I pay any attention? I get very upset at unfairness so I wonder if it is worth to get involved?

And here comes Dr. Laura blog:
"I just don’t like life’s unfair qualities, and I have generally stood up to them no matter what."
"we both still maintained the bulk of our differing opinions. We did, however, agree on one point of ethics, morals, and values: you defend who or what is being attacked unfairly, and consequently, we both defended responsible free speech."
"And I’m left wondering if you’ll stand up for others (or values, morals, ethics and principles) when most others around you will turn their gaze away."
Good for you, Dr. Laura!

Another point of that discussion was that its unreasonable to be good to people. Funny that the lady who was the biggest advocate of this keeps of giving life organising advices online without realising that it is spending time and energy for the sake of others – that is, being good to other people!

Also I’ve been thinking that they teach how not to offend in schools now. It good, as long as kids will understand that sometime if they have to do or to say something important they will offend others – who disagree (plus sometime our absolutely innocent actions can offend people with different system of views). I think its very important also to teach the children DO NOT GET offended and upset easily but defend their opinion calmly and reasonable. I have feeling the kids to much used to run to the teacher at a slight sight of any disagreement now.

Yet another 2 points: 1) If somebody says that a big group of people X are all idiots it is impossible to prove this. Therefore the only reason of doing that (consious or subconsiuos) is to OFFEND. The question is why?

2) I’ve been told that artificial nature of Orthodox religion (pretense) is proven by the fact that Orthodox people are easily offended… Well I think many people will get offended if others start calling them names without apparent reasons, people are offended by general unfairness, plus if others rudely speak about subjects CLOSE TO THEIR HEARTS. The later case actually PROVES that there is no pretense!

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